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Senate approves electricity conservation bill 47-3, House 186-4…

Commercial trucks using diesel fuel prohibited from idling for more than 5 minutes under bill unanimously approved by Senate…


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13 Comments

  1. Card Carrying PSEA
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 2:06 am | Permalink

    The Big Brother “smart meters.”

    This is what we get from Harrisburg with only a few members saying NO.

    That’s sad.

  2. Ray Horvath
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 4:36 am | Permalink

    “…the measure would reduce pollution and help truck drivers conserve fuel.”

    Praise be the all wise and knowing GA. If they didn’t pass this law, truckers would never know that letting a truck idle costs them money.

    Who is going to enforce this law? Will the diesel police be standing by with time clocks and recorders to catch offenders?

    Stupid is as stupid does.

  3. Posted October 9, 2008 at 6:46 am | Permalink

    Incredibly stupid. Especially with winter coming up. Anyone want to guess how the heater (or A/C in the summer) in a truck works? Either they idle the truck, or they spend thousands to put in a gas-powered generator to run the climate system.

    Truckers always get squeezed. Yet the Teamsters always go after business…not the governement, which continually screws them with burdensome regulations and taxation.

    Want an eye-opener? Talk to a trucker about the fees they pay on a daily, weekly, monthly, and yearly basis. You’re blood will boil.

  4. Conservative Goddess
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:25 am | Permalink

    “…Utilities can bill ratepayers for the cost of their conservation efforts.

    In addition, many more customers would receive “smart” power meters that track how much electricity flows into a home in real time, allowing utilities to better respond to outages and offer time-based alternatives to the average monthly rate that they traditionally charge.

    Under the bill, utilities would have to provide a smart meter to whomever requests one, install one in all new construction and swap one for any meter that is at least 15 years old.

    While major industrial and commercial ratepayers have operated on time-based rates for years, the concept of trying to shift electricity use to periods when fluctuating wholesale electric prices are lowest remains relatively foreign to residential users.

    The utilities would be able to charge consumers for the cost of the smart meter, which can vary — about $200 — depending on the kind. The most advanced ones allow the utility and the customer to gauge usage and cost immediately, instead of once a month after a meter reader makes the rounds….”

    Call your utility today and request a NEW STANDARD METER so that you cannot be forced to accept a “Smart Meter.”

    If this was truly going to save ANYONE any money, why does the GA have to mandate it? Wouldn’t the market naturally gravitate to it? What would we do without our benevolent betters ordering, guiding and directing our lives?

  5. Posted October 9, 2008 at 10:37 am | Permalink

    We’ve been looking into these for about two years – without any “guidance” from Harrisburg.

    Our issue was from the standpoint of reducing time (and money) of sending a meter reader to walk all over town. We certainly weren’t looking to mandate it…just saying to customers, “hey, this technology is out there if you want it…”

    Why can’t nanny leave us alone?

  6. Bitter Rural PA Ex-Pat
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:10 pm | Permalink

    Two comments, one for each story.

    First, when it comes to smart meters, what’s not to say that the utilities will start cutting usage in certain households and create forced rolling blackouts? Right now, most power companies offer voluntary programs where if you let them cut your power usage during peak hours by lowering your thermostat and other things from their control center you can save some money on your electric bill. I hate to go all black helicopter on this subject but how “smart” will these meters become? If you have enough leftist loons in power, this could set the stage for rationing power consumption (all in the name of the green movement). People can be responsible enough to curb their own power usage if they so choose.

    Second, I have a lot of mixed feelings on idling rules. I understand the pollution aspect of this, but what is the alternative? Truckers can’t keep turning their engines on and off all the time, and as was already pointed out, the comfort systems will not work without idling. Also, with the advent of ULSD doesn’t the pollution issue become a moot point? I thought ULSD was supposed to help curb diesel engine pollution.

  7. Conservative Goddess
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 12:20 pm | Permalink

    Many truck stops are equipped with “Idle Air” equipment…….to maintain cab comfort without idling the engine.

    http://www.idleaire.com/

    Again……do we need legislation where the free market is providing an alternative? If this is more efficient/economical, wouldn’t the market demand it?

    I guess our benevolent betters know best. Pfft.

  8. Posted October 9, 2008 at 1:05 pm | Permalink

    Most drivers don’t stay at truck stops…

    I don’t know any truck stops around here that have the Idle Air system.

    A lot of those Idle Air systems popped up when states (like New York *surprise*) banned idling a handful of years ago.

  9. billadams
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 5:27 pm | Permalink

    Nanny only wants us to have less of everything.
    She wants us to have less electricity, when the same money wasted on stadiums, convention centers, and “community development” could have built Pennsylvania a half dozen nuclear reactors to make plenty of clean, cheap electricity for all of us.
    Nanny doesn’t want that. She’d rather that we all be poorer.
    Now, it looks like Nanny and her rich friends are destroying the values of America’s stocks so people will vote for their candidate.

  10. reasoned opinion
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 8:11 pm | Permalink

    Smart meters are necessary if utilities are going to be able to charge different prices for power depending on the time of day. It’s a benefit to the customer because is providdes them with more information on the market. it allows me, for example, to set my dishwasher to turn on in the middle of the night when electricity is the cheapest.

    the reason for the change in law is because power companies can’t charge differential pricing. they want to be able to do that. In order to get that ability, lawmakers are requiring them to at least offer smart meters.

    That said, nothing in the law requires a homeowner to buy/use one.

  11. Ray Horvath
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:02 pm | Permalink

    YET!

  12. Conservative Goddess
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 9:19 pm | Permalink

    Did you read the same article I did? From the article:

    “Under the bill, utilities would have to provide a smart meter to whomever requests one, install one in all new construction and swap one for any meter that is at least 15 years old.”

    What am I missing? According to the news report, utilities will HAVE TO swap one for any meter that is at least 15 years old—-like in my house.

    I didn’t see any discretion there AND I OBJECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  13. Brutus
    Posted October 11, 2008 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    Home generator is looking better and better…

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