HOUSE SENDS DEM BUDGET TO SENATE IN 104-95 VOTE…
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Where is the vaunted Blue Dog Democrats who had 10 votes against it? I do not care if they are rural or not, they are still all communists.
Only TWO Democrats against:
PALLONE
PETRARCA
Republican traitors for:
GODSHALL
MICOZZIE
O'BRIEN, D.
Where are the vaunted Blue Dog Democrats who had 10 votes against it? I do not care if they are rural or not, they are still all communists.
Only TWO Democrats against:
PALLONE
PETRARCA
Republican traitors for:
GODSHALL
MICOZZIE
O'BRIEN, D.
TO REPRESENTATIVE PALLONE:
THANK YOU FOR YOUR VOTE. You've demonstrated uncommon courage in the face of Democratic idiocy.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU for standing against this tax increase.
Godshall should be our number 1 primary target. He represents a northern Montco district that could easily elect someone capable of voting against such a fiscal trainwreck.
Godshall is about 100 years old. At least he can claim alzheimers for his votes.
The Senate Republicans … every single one of them … better dig in deep and hold this budget under siege until 2010.
Isn't he around 80 years old?
101 House Democrats voted to completely defund Penn State, Pitt and Temple. Temple alone has 125,000 graduates living in PA. Why any graduate of these three schools would voted for ANY of these 101 house Democrats is beyond me. Now they will try to force video poker in bars as a way to get the poor and indigent to pay to support public higher education AND then piss away our income taxes on more government bullcrap and waste.
Micozzie switched parties about 40 years ago to run for the legislature. Now his eastern Delco district is rapidly trending D due to dramatic demographic shifts, and he's running scared. The widespread belief is that he's cut a deal with Rendell: so long as he votes like a D, the Ds won't fund significant opposition.
Not Blue Dogs, Lap Dogs. Lap Dogs to Evans and Rendell. That's what they turned out to be when push came to shove. Shame on Kotik particularly and Jim Casorio. Casorio has turned. Disappointing.
[youtube P09mGDl6kGQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P09mGDl6kGQ youtube]
I might be willing to take on that bet.
GOOD! Resurrecting database skills…..
District 56, ACES………..a definite maybe………
A] He's afraid of you
or
B] He's learned from you
or
C] He's got a credible challenger.
and
D] He got permission to vote against it.
I know that my view is an unpopular one.
On the surface government funding of 'higher education' sounds like a good thing, but pouring all that money into it has allowed colleges to raise tuition and further indebt the student. On top of that, are any of you really proud of the 'finished product' that comes out of these schools? They are indoctrination centers more so than institutions of higher education.
E] All of the above.
I'll go with that.
Business as usual politics will only end when the House is cleaned out of Dems and RINO Reps which is 90 percent plus of them.____The voting against the Demo tax plan is posturing by the 27 billion dollar GOP crowd.____It all about downsizing big government with the education system (higher, lower etc.) deserving cuts. ____The libs at Temple and Penn State don't deserve it. ____Public education (K-12) needs to totally get its house in order. Taxpayers should demand that my union locals all give back the outrageous 4 percent pay hikes (or more) that exist in most contracts now in effect.____Speak up now and do not be silent. Harrisburg should put the heat on local districts with less money but guess what.__My union has bought Harrisburg and that's why Harrisburg needs a clean out.
I agree with you Ray. We are about to send our last child off to Pitt. We, of course, are eligible for no "help" since my husband is gainfully employed. You MUST purchase a meal plan, they limit the amount of paper the kids can print for "free", they monitor Internet usage to make sure you are not using too much bandwidth (if you do, they shut you off), even though we are footing the bill for everything, our son has to sign permission for us to get his grades, for us to be notified if he gets sick….etc.
All this after homeschooling to avoid people telling us what our kid should be taught and how…..Exactly what is being funded by the state?
No one was making credible threats to run against Casorio.
It's time to start recruiting citizens in every House and Senate district. We've been here before. Learned a few things in the process. I'm willing to bet the mistakes of previous efforts will not be repeated. We're stronger and smarter for it.
Can I suggest a change to your name? When I first read it, I read it as "Caddywoopass"……..I think that might be appropriate for the upcoming battle.
High salaries for tenured professors is my guess.
I love it.
And there are a lot of asses that need whooping.
LOL
Thank God I went to a private liberal arts college. Big public universities are not places for learning, but factories. Smaller colleges are the only places you will get any form of a merit scholarship or true choice in education.
I was accepted to Pitt's law school but I turned down their offer after visiting the place. It seems like the whole place is a bureaucratic FDR utopia. I visited the two other state law schools in PA and they looked decent compared to Pitt. In the end, I still could not tolerate the public university so I went to Villanova. They gave a bigger pile of money to me anyway.
The 10 percent yearly increase in higher education budgets needs to be reigned in. Set them to the rate of inflation and be more selective in their admissions.
Good song.
As a recent graduate of pitt, I can tell you that the baseline tuition doesn’t even begin to cover the true cost of tuition. The bandwidth issue is a major problem that hit quite a few of my friends around finals time.
I really hope the senate R’s hold the line!
Does anyone know where I might find a comparison between the right budget and the two disaster budgets? The house takes higher edu out. Was it taken out of the sen budget also? Who knows what Ed might have taken out. Those secrets are sure to be in his book.
I find it hard to keep track of all the number shenanigans. I guess that is part of the confusion plan.
Seems to me, if something is going to be spent then report the number in the total. Taking large chunks out of the general fund budget just keeps people thinking we are not spending more.
Actually you are wrong Ray and so is the commonwelath foundation. Tuition has increased at places like Pitt and Penn State because Rendell has slashed appropriations at these schools. This year he was planning on giving them appropriations at the levels seen 15 years ago WITHOUT accounting for inflation. That is why tuition has increased. Expenses have been cut and most Pitt professors earn LESS than many kindergarten teachers here in the southeast. Also great professors create high paying research jobs at the institution which contribute back to the commonwealth in income and sales taxes.
I agree with Ray. The reason tuition is increasing faster than the rate of inflation is because of all the state/federal funding and the loan programs. It is relatively painless to take on debt. The students don't realize they have millstones around their necks until it's too late.
Remove all government funding/subsidies/loans. Let the FREE market dictate the price.
Dolley,
What district will you be running in?
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Do you have a link to teacher and Pitt professors salaries to back up your claim?
Have you not considered that the schools raised tuitions to put pressure on everyone concerned in order to get more funding?
Have you not considered the long term (not one instance) effects of pumping so much money into 'education'?