Altmire & Holden lone Dem votes against health care bill…
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Dahlkemper is in a liberal enough district.
Holden and Altmire both judged their vulnerablility.
Holden has a district with deep talk radio penetration (WHP).
But can both of these guys separate themselves from Obama and win next year??????
Hopefully, there will be alot of new reps in 2010. Ones with ears who listen to their constituents.
So the PA Blue Dogs helped ObamaCare through the House. The vote was 220-115, so without their help it doesn't go through. Holden is toast. Carney is toast. Murtha and Kanjo could be vulnerable.
Holden, no doubt was given "cover" by the Speaker when it became evident she had the votes. A pathetic performance by Republicans who gave cover on the abortion, thereby clearing the way to pass.
Altmire is a lap dog, not a blue dog. Pelosi plays him like a Stradivarius.
Freep’s right. Dems knew exactly who to ‘cover’. You say they’re toast? Then get quality candidates fast.
The only reason Holden may retain his seat is because the GOP leadership in Berks, Lebanon, Schuylkill, Dauphin and Cumberland counties are inept morons.
There was also one Republican from Louisiana who voted for this miscarriage of law – Joe Cao. If the House GOP endorses him for re-election, they should all be tossed out on their ears.
Holden was getting pounded by his constituents – the same ones he blew off by failing to appear at town hall meetings this summer.
Despite this vote, I think he is going to be in trouble – presuming the the GOP chairman have the intestinal fortitude to challenge him.
Joe Cao won a special election in the bluest of districts a year ago in New Orleans. He replaced the now convicted congressmen William Jefferson, Democrat-Louisana. He was the last GOPer to vote last night, and had premission form Boehner to vote yea once the count got over 218 in favor. If he wants to win reelection in his district in 2010, he needed to vote for it as a tactical decision.
Also, based on what I am reading, the bill is DOA in the Senate as many moderate Ds will not vote for cloture. Liberman, Landreau, Lincoln, and Nelson are among those who are not in favor of a public option.
If the bill does not get to conference by February 2010, then there will be no bill at all since those up Ds for reelection in the House and Senate do not want to give the voting public another reason to vote them out.
Delusional if you think Murtha's vulnerable. Most of Murtha's constituents are already on government healthcare through Medicare, Medicaid or SCHIP. You must remember it is also the most favorable to big spending of any district.
Let's not make excuses for weasels, okay?
Carney, Dahlkemper and Patrick Murphy are the most vulnerable because of their vote.
Murtha and Kanjorski are not vulnerable because their districts love big government anyhow. A majority of Murtha's district is already on government healthcare through Medicare, Medicaid or SCHIP. Anyone who thinks these districts are bastions of limited government just waiting to be awakened should visit their nearest mental health professional because they clearly have lost it.
The fact we have any Republican votes from that district is a miracle. His district is about as Democratic as Brady's district.
Murphy’s the most vulnerable, by far. So, who’s running against him?
There are zip, reasons as to why no top tier republicans have announced against Carney and Dahlkemper,
Carney even voted for cap and trade. Some top republicans in that district better announce stat now. Any names anyone hear? I honestly think Carney showed his arrogance in this vote he really feels like he can win re-election easily and still vote for all of Pelosi legislation
Carney, Dahlkemper and perhaps to lesser extent Altmire are all vulnerable. We can win all 3 seats.
Murphy should not be given a free ride and while Murtha is entrenched in his district you never know how things may play out with his ethics problems.
So, compromising one's principles is justified if the district is Marxist?
Gee, where have I heard that before….?
I received a fundraising letter from the guy who ran against him last time, so I guess he's in the race.
With the tide rising against incumbents, there is no excuse for the GOP not to have a challenger for ever Democrat in the state.
whatever happened to Fitzpatrick?
someone said he was sick? any news
This is not even a swing district or a marginally Democrat district.
In the end, a representative has to represent the wishes of their constituents.
Doesn't mean he has to be on our team.
The nature of our system, a two party system, places many candidates in both parties that have many disagreements with them.
Cao's voting record generally places him on the Republican side. He voted against the stimulus and cap and trade. That is two important votes we would not have had if a Democrat represented the district.
I would be more than willing to throw someone under the bus if they voted for it in a safe or swing district.
In the end, he will be gone in 2010 anyway. If he gets reelected in such a Democratic district, he is on to something.
And, as far as I am concerned, he should go. I would hate to think that the GOP would waste time and money on this closet commie.